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Posted by :     easyman ( 16:05:2005 23:22 )     | Post a reply to this message Tree view  |  Message No. : 25652  
  Truth about Ramayana and answers to Jinnah Roshan.. Why fanatic mullahs like him don`t get it.
Jinnah Roshan Claim : Shambuka was a Sudra so Rama killed him.

Truth: >Please see the Valmiki naration your self. Lord Rama considerd Guha a brother. Sugriva, a monkey, a brother. Vibhaeeshana of rakshasa clan, a brother. Shabari was worshipped by Him. The Lord in fact says birth is of no concern. Behaviour based on dharma does.
Shambuka does a penance hanging upside down. Shri Rama asked who he was and what he was doing. Shambuka replied that he was a shudra and was doing penance to conquer the Gods. Then Shri Rama cuts his head off. Sage Narada explains this in Valmiki. The sage says this was thretha yuga and such a rigorous penance was not to be done bu shudras in that yuga but *only in kali* yuga can shudras do that. Hence the brahmana child died. More over Shambuka wanted to conquer the Gods and hence Shri Rama did not want to let him live and go through another horrendous Ravana like person getting boons and causing problems for the whole world.
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Shambuka was killed not because he was a shudra! But because he was trying to do a penance 1) to conquer the gods. Ravana already did this and brought chaos. Shri Rama had defeated Ravana and had just returned to Ayodhya! You want the whole world to go through another Ravana, so soon. There was no discrimination based on birth ever.

WHY JINNAH ROSHAN NEVER ACCEPT:
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Because mullahisim preaches killi.ng others who don`t believe in Allah. Reading Q`ran it states clearly that killing will bring them heavn. Here is the quote from Q`ran
O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ?

This verse clarifies the fact that a true Muslim can never be a friend of a person of another faith. People who believe otherwise are under delusion.

"O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ? "
- When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

SOME MORE EXPLANATION AND WHY JINNAH ROSHAN WILL NEVER ACCEPT
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* The same kind of false stories are talked on why Rama killed Vali hiding behind a tree. Rama killed him because he took his brother`s wife. The mullahs may not like it because they are allowed to have 3 wifes and unlimited s*x partners... at a given time... so now tell me why mullahs will accept this. Rama has to hide himself as Vali got the boon to take half the power of the opponent.

* I already answered multiple time ,Jinnah Roshan quotes on Ramayan from mullah sites but HE IS YET TO ANSWER MY SINGLE QUESTION ON MULLAHISIM... WHAT TO DO U CALL IT... COWARD.... If Jinnah Roshan wants it I will post it again.. Do U WANT IT JINNAH ROSHAN.. DO U HAVE THE B.LLS TO TAKE THIS ONE...
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Posted by :   anroshan0 ( 17:05:2005 21:29 )
The reservation debate is about redressing the cruelties inflicted on the sudras by the Brahmins

easyman, yaar, you Brahmin fellows always have some devious explanation.  But you should know that you cannot get your claptrap past Pandit Roshan, the leading analyst of Brahmanical thinking on the internet !!

You come out with an ingenious evasion for Rama s execution of a sudra. This is what you wrote :

Shambuka does a penance hanging upside down. Shri Rama asked who he was and what he was doing. Shambuka replied that he was a shudra and was doing penance to conquer the Gods. Then Shri Rama cuts his head off. Sage Narada explains this in Valmiki. The sage says this was thretha yuga and such a rigorous penance was not to be done bu shudras in that yuga but *only in kali* yuga can shudras do that. Hence the brahmana child died. More over Shambuka wanted to conquer the Gods and hence Shri Rama did not want to let him live and go through another horrendous Ravana like person getting boons and causing problems for the whole world.
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Shambuka was killed not because he was a shudra! But because he was trying to do a penance 1) to conquer the gods. Ravana already did this and brought chaos. Shri Rama had defeated Ravana and had just returned to Ayodhya! You want the whole world to go through another Ravana, so soon. There was no discrimination based on birth ever.

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My response :

So Dr. Ambedkar, a leading scholar got it wrong ? He did not realise Shambuga the sudra was executed for the well being of the world ?!!  Was he a fanatic mullah or Christian missionary who did not get the truth about the Ramayana ?

First of all when you say that the sudra can only do penance in one yuga, but not in another, the question is why is the sudra restricted.  It automatically means the sudra does not have the same rights. But you have the cheek to write at the same time that there was no discrimination based on birth ever !  Brahmins are questioned in India because of this capacity to lie.

You tell us that a brahmana child died because a sudra did penance at an inappropriate time.  Where is the linkage ?  Why does the sudra get the blame ?  

What about the many sudra children who have died at the hands of the Brahmins in modern India ?  This is a more real subject. Is it because the Brahmins are doing penance in he wrong yuga ?!! Leave your Brahmin mythologies behind and address this.  

The reservation debate is all about redressing the cruelties inflicted on the sudras by the Brahmins.  Get it ??

Do not reply by bringing irrelevant comments about Islam.  Address the questions I asked related to WHAT YOU WROTE.
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Posted by :   sekharpanigrahi ( 17:05:2005 08:30 )
Rama helped tribals in Dandakaranya

I read in Ramayana that tribals in Dandakarnya were hardcore devotees of Rama. When those tribals met Rama when he was in excile Rama talked very politely with them. Valmiki Maharshi who wrote Ramayana was also sudra, not brahman or kshatriya or vysya.
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